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		<title>By: Tammy Vitale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy Vitale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t - but that was Molly&#039;s so try her.  contact:  I don&#039;t - but that was Molly&#039;s so try her.  contact:  http://www.selfemploymenttelesummit.com/contact-us/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t &#8211; but that was Molly&#8217;s so try her.  contact:  I don&#8217;t &#8211; but that was Molly&#8217;s so try her.  contact:  <a href="http://www.selfemploymenttelesummit.com/contact-us/" rel="nofollow">http://www.selfemploymenttelesummit.com/contact-us/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, do you still have the free audio of The 3 Journeys of Marketing with Mark Silver?

The link wasn&#039;t working but I am interested in listening to it :)</description>
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<p>The link wasn&#8217;t working but I am interested in listening to it <img src='http://tammyvitale.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Molly Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Molly, you say you just &quot;wanted to make what I wanted to make&quot; but weren&#039;t &quot;interested in finding out what my clients wanted and valued.&quot; You connect this with not being &quot;committed to serving anyone with my work&quot; and ask, &quot;Why, then, should anyone pay me?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;I have to admit that this has the appearance of just another marketing strategy: I find out what clients want and value, and then make what they want so I can make sales, rather than producing what comes from my heart and soul, and having those who are attracted to it become my clients.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, I can understand how you might feel that way. And I am not saying we should abandon our hearts&#039; desires, look for vulnerabilities in the consumer psyche, and exploit those for money.&lt;/p&gt;

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This reminds me of a conversation I had once with a client who is a physical trainer. She wanted to invest in some workout clothes but was stuck on what to buy. &quot;I know my shapeless old sweats aren&#039;t professional,&quot; she said, &quot;but I don&#039;t see why I should have to wear a thong, either.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Well,&quot; I remarked. &quot;There&#039;s quite a lot of choices that are neither shapeless sweats nor thongs.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In other words, sometimes we become so sensitized to an issue: body image or money, for example, that we only see the extremes. The quite rich and varied middle ground is practically invisible until we learn to look with different eyes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
My point is that no one owes me a living. At the same time, one look at my checkered career and you&#039;ll see I&#039;m not attached to conventional lifestyles or definitions of success. So it&#039;s not about reducing art to the level of consumer-baiting.&lt;/p&gt;

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I do feel that the marketplace, far from being an evil place, can be the crossroads where goods and services--including the arts--can be exchanged and both parties enriched in the process. I feel it is my responsibility to demonstrate or make apparent the value of my work if I want to earn a living from it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
To go back to the example of my wearable art. It could have been a viable business if I had been willing (and courageous enough) to slow down a bit, to take more time with fitting and experimentation prior to committing to a piece. I&#039;m not knocking myself for not having done that; and it seems reasonable that racing from idea to idea was not a good business plan.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t think we need to sacrifice art on the altar of commerce. But to be good stewards of art in the commercial world, I do think we need to be willing to communicate in the marketplace. That means not just selling but listening to what people value.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Molly, you say you just &quot;wanted to make what I wanted to make&quot; but weren&#39;t &quot;interested in finding out what my clients wanted and valued.&quot; You connect this with not being &quot;committed to serving anyone with my work&quot; and ask, &quot;Why, then, should anyone pay me?&quot;</p>
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&quot;I have to admit that this has the appearance of just another marketing strategy: I find out what clients want and value, and then make what they want so I can make sales, rather than producing what comes from my heart and soul, and having those who are attracted to it become my clients.&quot;</p>
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Yes, I can understand how you might feel that way. And I am not saying we should abandon our hearts&#39; desires, look for vulnerabilities in the consumer psyche, and exploit those for money.</p>
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This reminds me of a conversation I had once with a client who is a physical trainer. She wanted to invest in some workout clothes but was stuck on what to buy. &quot;I know my shapeless old sweats aren&#39;t professional,&quot; she said, &quot;but I don&#39;t see why I should have to wear a thong, either.&quot;</p>
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&quot;Well,&quot; I remarked. &quot;There&#39;s quite a lot of choices that are neither shapeless sweats nor thongs.&quot; </p>
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In other words, sometimes we become so sensitized to an issue: body image or money, for example, that we only see the extremes. The quite rich and varied middle ground is practically invisible until we learn to look with different eyes.</p>
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My point is that no one owes me a living. At the same time, one look at my checkered career and you&#39;ll see I&#39;m not attached to conventional lifestyles or definitions of success. So it&#39;s not about reducing art to the level of consumer-baiting.</p>
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I do feel that the marketplace, far from being an evil place, can be the crossroads where goods and services&#8211;including the arts&#8211;can be exchanged and both parties enriched in the process. I feel it is my responsibility to demonstrate or make apparent the value of my work if I want to earn a living from it.</p>
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To go back to the example of my wearable art. It could have been a viable business if I had been willing (and courageous enough) to slow down a bit, to take more time with fitting and experimentation prior to committing to a piece. I&#39;m not knocking myself for not having done that; and it seems reasonable that racing from idea to idea was not a good business plan.</p>
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I don&#39;t think we need to sacrifice art on the altar of commerce. But to be good stewards of art in the commercial world, I do think we need to be willing to communicate in the marketplace. That means not just selling but listening to what people value.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow.  I am just starting to look at my art and creativity as something I could sell. The idea overwhelm is something I&#039;ve been working through a lot.  Actually asking someone to pay me for what I love doing is so hard.  Thank you all for sharing,  it makes me feel so much better to know that I&#039;m not alone in my striving.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I am just starting to look at my art and creativity as something I could sell. The idea overwhelm is something I&#39;ve been working through a lot.  Actually asking someone to pay me for what I love doing is so hard.  Thank you all for sharing,  it makes me feel so much better to know that I&#39;m not alone in my striving.</p>
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		<title>By: AscenderRisesAbove</title>
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		<dc:creator>AscenderRisesAbove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;who would i be without the overwhelm? an interesting question. &lt;br /&gt;
I also noticed your pieces were taking an autumn-ish look to them&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who would i be without the overwhelm? an interesting question. <br />
I also noticed your pieces were taking an autumn-ish look to them</p>
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		<title>By: leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, great answer, Molly! Lots to think about here! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Like Carol, I wonder about the difference or the line between creating what your clients want and creating freely and where they overlap. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I&#039;m also loving your necklace, Tammy!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, great answer, Molly! Lots to think about here! </p>
<p>Like Carol, I wonder about the difference or the line between creating what your clients want and creating freely and where they overlap. </p>
<p>And I&#39;m also loving your necklace, Tammy!</p>
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		<title>By: PattiH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PattiH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fascinating stuff, stimulating conversation, so very glad to have landed here. I have many similar issues with writing, and selling/getting paid for it.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating stuff, stimulating conversation, so very glad to have landed here. I have many similar issues with writing, and selling/getting paid for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Wiebe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Wiebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, that money question, that what are you worth topic. It&#039;s HUGE, and Molly presented ideas that hit some tender spots. I realized a while back that my &#039;money issues&#039; had to be dealt with, and I have been seeking resources to help me do that. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Molly, you say you just &quot;wanted to make what I wanted to make&quot; but weren&#039;t &quot;interested in finding out what my clients wanted and valued.&quot; You connect this with not being &quot;committed to serving anyone with my work&quot; and ask, &quot;Why, then, should anyone pay me?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have to admit that this has the appearance of just another marketing strategy: I find out what clients want and value, and then make what they want so I can make sales, rather than producing what comes from my heart and soul, and having those who are attracted to it become my clients. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think I am alone with my lingering &quot;sell out&quot; fears. Having spent a lot of time exploring &quot;what I have to say,&quot; I am reticent about working to please others (women, especially, have done so much of this that many get to a point of &quot;losing themselves&quot;). On the other hand, I very much appreciate and am energized and encouraged by responses to my art that indicate it has spoken to someone in some way that moved him or her. And, I certainly want to please clients as far as my artistry, workmanship, and professional approach to making sales and delivering them is concerned.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I want to get at the difference between serving versus pleasing, or catering to, and would appreciate your thoughts on this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Tammy. You are always getting to the heart of things, one way or another! (And the necklace is stunning. I also love the new profile pic: you have a very wise and penetrating look in your eyes. A &#039;don&#039;t mess with me&#039; look.)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that money question, that what are you worth topic. It&#39;s HUGE, and Molly presented ideas that hit some tender spots. I realized a while back that my &#39;money issues&#39; had to be dealt with, and I have been seeking resources to help me do that. </p>
<p>Molly, you say you just &quot;wanted to make what I wanted to make&quot; but weren&#39;t &quot;interested in finding out what my clients wanted and valued.&quot; You connect this with not being &quot;committed to serving anyone with my work&quot; and ask, &quot;Why, then, should anyone pay me?&quot;</p>
<p>I have to admit that this has the appearance of just another marketing strategy: I find out what clients want and value, and then make what they want so I can make sales, rather than producing what comes from my heart and soul, and having those who are attracted to it become my clients. </p>
<p>I don&#39;t think I am alone with my lingering &quot;sell out&quot; fears. Having spent a lot of time exploring &quot;what I have to say,&quot; I am reticent about working to please others (women, especially, have done so much of this that many get to a point of &quot;losing themselves&quot;). On the other hand, I very much appreciate and am energized and encouraged by responses to my art that indicate it has spoken to someone in some way that moved him or her. And, I certainly want to please clients as far as my artistry, workmanship, and professional approach to making sales and delivering them is concerned.</p>
<p>I want to get at the difference between serving versus pleasing, or catering to, and would appreciate your thoughts on this.</p>
<p>Thanks, Tammy. You are always getting to the heart of things, one way or another! (And the necklace is stunning. I also love the new profile pic: you have a very wise and penetrating look in your eyes. A &#39;don&#39;t mess with me&#39; look.)</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well.  this is a thoughtful post and I do have some thoughts of my own.  yes, I recognize the overwhelm you are referring to, and it was also discussed in a class I attended last evening.  the topic was chunking down the goal.  the goal itself looms large and if broken into small steps to lay a path, it seems more reasonable and less threatening.  Overwhelm causes my head to spin and when I experience it, the most effective means I have found is to &quot;make less of it all&quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
I do have difficulty with my self-worth regarding money.  I am more comfortable volunteering than asking for money and it is a huge mountain to climb.  Taking it one step at a time and positive self-talk, affirmations, breathing, it all helps.  thanks for the nudge.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well.  this is a thoughtful post and I do have some thoughts of my own.  yes, I recognize the overwhelm you are referring to, and it was also discussed in a class I attended last evening.  the topic was chunking down the goal.  the goal itself looms large and if broken into small steps to lay a path, it seems more reasonable and less threatening.  Overwhelm causes my head to spin and when I experience it, the most effective means I have found is to &quot;make less of it all&quot;.  <br />
I do have difficulty with my self-worth regarding money.  I am more comfortable volunteering than asking for money and it is a huge mountain to climb.  Taking it one step at a time and positive self-talk, affirmations, breathing, it all helps.  thanks for the nudge.</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First, I have to say, I&#039;m in love with the necklace-simply beautiful!&lt;br /&gt;
This is the 3rd time that I&#039;ve started to writet this comment, and have deleted the other 2 as they were turning into short novels-obviously I have a lot to say on this matter:) &lt;br /&gt;
For now, lets just say that when I hit overwhelm there seems to be a set routine, which I didn&#039;t even know until you made me think about it tonight!  &lt;br /&gt;
I try to figure out which medium(s) do I really want to do the nmost of all, clean the studio-again, learn as much as I can about chosen medium, practice until I feel it&#039;s &quot;ok&quot; enough &amp; then do more, do more research to answer the new questions I always have at this point-and then cringe at pricing. Not sure if I&#039;ll ever get it right, but I&#039;m getting closer by knowing that I&#039;ve truly earned the right to ask for $$ and  knowing that whatever I&#039;ve done is to the best of my ability.  I think the real issue for me right now is finding the best place to put my art.&lt;br /&gt;
And this still turned into a novel!      &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I have to say, I&#39;m in love with the necklace-simply beautiful!<br />
This is the 3rd time that I&#39;ve started to writet this comment, and have deleted the other 2 as they were turning into short novels-obviously I have a lot to say on this matter:) <br />
For now, lets just say that when I hit overwhelm there seems to be a set routine, which I didn&#39;t even know until you made me think about it tonight!  <br />
I try to figure out which medium(s) do I really want to do the nmost of all, clean the studio-again, learn as much as I can about chosen medium, practice until I feel it&#39;s &quot;ok&quot; enough &amp; then do more, do more research to answer the new questions I always have at this point-and then cringe at pricing. Not sure if I&#39;ll ever get it right, but I&#39;m getting closer by knowing that I&#39;ve truly earned the right to ask for $$ and  knowing that whatever I&#39;ve done is to the best of my ability.  I think the real issue for me right now is finding the best place to put my art.<br />
And this still turned into a novel!      </p>
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